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Comments on "The Reasons God Isn’t Real" @ronruggieri9817 5 days ago What is the political agenda of this endless social media stream of New Atheism Cult propaganda ? Before he emerged as fascist dictator of Italy in the 1920s , Benito Mussolini wrote a book literally titled " God Does Not Exist " with the theme that Catholics in Italy and Christians in general were stupid. The fate of Mussolini is well known . " The Rock of Peter ", the Catholic Church in Vatican City is still there. Not for nothing , I suspect the New Atheism Cult has a right wing political agenda . When I ask them numerous times in posts : "How do YOU apply your deified LOGIC and REASON to the great evils of our times : global capitalism, American imperialism , and Israeli Zionism ? " I get only insults : " Is this an interrogation ? " ... " Get an education " ... " did you take your meds today ? " At times the New Atheism Cult evangelists talk so nasty about God, Faith, and religion that I think they qualify as a genuine HATE group !.They would fit in perfectly to the " officially atheist " tyranny of Stalin's Soviet Union in the bleak decades after the briefly inspired Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. " Official atheism "- minus " communism " in " OUR democracy " would only delight them. 5 Reply Cold Of Reason · 19 replies Highlighted reply @Aurealeus 5 hours ago @ronruggieri9817 You keep repeating “New Atheism” is a right-wing movement with an agenda, but you haven’t demonstrated it once. You've just asserted it over and over as if repetition counts as proof, and continuing to claim it is, doesn't make it true no matter how many times you repeat it. What you’ve said confirms the real issue isn’t atheism itself, but your animosity for the tone and politics of a few vocal atheists. You still haven’t identified any actual doctrine or program shared by the people you’re lumping together because you know atheism is not a political platform. Having opinions about religion doesn’t make someone part of an organized ideological movement any more than criticizing capitalism makes someone a Marxist-Leninist. You also keep claiming "no atheist has answered your simple question,” even though I’ve responded to you multiple times directly on that exact point. You just ignore what you can’t address and repeat your script as if nothing was said. That’s not debate — it’s not only hypocritical, it's evasion. It's as if you didn't even bother to read any of my responses. You even failed to answer any of the questions I put forth at the beginning of this thread in response to your original comment and throughout, yet you expect others to answer yours, and get perturbed when they don't. So, before you accuse others of avoiding inquiry, maybe start by explaining your own inconsistency instead of demanding answers you refuse to acknowledge. Your outrage over atheists “preaching” is especially ironic given how loudly religious believers have used the airwaves, pulpits, legislation, schools, and governments to preach and impose their doctrines for centuries. Atheists writing books, speaking publicly, or posting online isn't oppression — it’s parity. The only people threatened by open disagreement are those nostalgic for blasphemy laws and who want to control others. Continuing to claim Hitchens "was a shill for... capitalism, American imperialism, and Israel Zionism." is laughable, when it is well-known he rallied against "all three" for decades and shifted only on the Iraq issue later in life. One man's political drift is not a manifesto for millions of people who happen not to believe in gods. If you’re going to hold atheism responsible for Hitchens, then you need to start holding Christianity responsible for Franco, Pinochet, the KKK, Bolsonaro, apartheid South Africa, and Catholic monarchism. But you won’t — because you only universalize blame when it suits you. You’re welding unrelated things together because it helps your narrative, not because the facts support it. You blame democrats and chastise atheists because you fear those who have a different ideology than you so you blame atheism for being "a possible political base and "community" of support for the WOKE WARRIOR Democratic Party". I'd bet you couldn't even define what "WOKE" means. If you’re going to hold atheism responsible for the Democratic Party platform, then you also need to hold religious believers responsible for being a political base and community of support for the Republican Party and authoritarian, Christofascist nationalism. Your claim that “normal people” believe or disbelieve "quietly" is historically ridiculous. Religion has been anything but quiet. It's been institutional, coercive, evangelizing, legislating, colonizing, and punishing dissenters for centuries. The only difference now is that atheists can finally speak without being jailed, exiled, or executed, as they once were. The fact you find that noisy says more about your comfort with enforced silence by depriving the free-speech rights of others — rights theists like yourself enjoy — than it does about anyone “making asses” of themselves. So we’re back at the real takeaway: atheism isn’t your problem — noncompliance with what YOU believe is. You’ve gone from accusing disbelief — of enabling right-wing fascism to complaining that some atheists won’t speak about religion in a tone of deference. That’s not a moral indictment, it’s personal preference. If you want to discuss politics, do it. If you want to criticize Hitchens or others personally, fine. But stop pretending your discomfort with outspoken atheists magically turns disbelief into a right-wing ideology or "movement". Your position isn’t an analysis — it’s just personal annoyance dressed up as a fallacious conspiracy theory. Reply @ronruggieri9817 0 seconds ago The very published books of the idolized " Four Horsemen " of the New Atheism identifies this New Atheist Cult evangelists with a mostly unspoken right wing , pro-capitalist, pro-American imperialist , pro Israeli Zionist political agenda. They are actually. contrary to classic HUMANIST atheists , closer to the militant atheist , belligerent ZIONIST Jew crank Ayn Rand , author of the cult book " The Virtue of Selfishness ". Only the politically illiterate cannot distinguish the tradition of classic, mostly HUMANIST, atheism with the crackpot MOVEMENT of the New Atheism. More and more THEY qualify as a HATE group. But I would not want them censored because unlike the WOKE WARRIOR Democratic Party I do believe in the FREE SPEECH , FREE THOUGHT tradition of Western Civilization. And anything resembling a threat of dumb violence is anathema.